Classic Submariner. The Rolex Submariner 14060M is identical to its better known brother, the Rolex Submariner 16610. Both are all stainless steel 40mm large divers watches with a 300 meter water resistance rating and a rotating bezel which acts as a timer for periods of time of up to as long as 60 minutes.
The difference lies in the absence of the date complication. The Rolex Submariner 14060M has no date displays (and consequently no cyclops) and is powered by the Rolex 3130 movement. This movements produces 28,800 vibrations per hour, same as other Rolex watches.
COSC versus Non-COSC. Most Rolex Submariner 14060M are not certified as chornometers. A chronometer is a watch certified by the Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres (COSC), the Swiss Official Chronometer Testing Institute an average daily gain of not more than 4 seconds and a loss of not more than 6 seconds per day.
All Rolex Submariner 14060M prior to 2007 are not COSC certified. Late in 2007, Rolex started to produce Rolex Submariner 14060M which were COSC certified.
The COSC certified versions of the watch are the ones that read "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified" which is Rolexspeak for "Chronometer" under the words "Submariner 1000ft=300m" on the lower half of the dial. The non-COSC versions simply have "Submariner 1000ft=300m" on the lower part of the dial.
No-date advantage? The one thing about the I like about the no-date sub, is the nice classic clean looking face. Other than that, there really is no advantage to a no-date Submariner versus one with a date except for the price (about US$400 less) and a few less moving parts, which means a few less parts subject to failure. But when you are buying a Rolex, premature failure of the movement is something you need be too concerned about.
About Rolex. Rolex SA is a Swiss manufacturer of wristwatches and accessories founded in 1905 by Hans Wilsdorf and Alfred Davis. Rolex is the largest single luxury watch brand by far, producing over 2000 watches per day. Rolex is the best known and most sought after watch brand in the world.
The difference lies in the absence of the date complication. The Rolex Submariner 14060M has no date displays (and consequently no cyclops) and is powered by the Rolex 3130 movement. This movements produces 28,800 vibrations per hour, same as other Rolex watches.
COSC versus Non-COSC. Most Rolex Submariner 14060M are not certified as chornometers. A chronometer is a watch certified by the Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres (COSC), the Swiss Official Chronometer Testing Institute an average daily gain of not more than 4 seconds and a loss of not more than 6 seconds per day.
All Rolex Submariner 14060M prior to 2007 are not COSC certified. Late in 2007, Rolex started to produce Rolex Submariner 14060M which were COSC certified.
The COSC certified versions of the watch are the ones that read "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified" which is Rolexspeak for "Chronometer" under the words "Submariner 1000ft=300m" on the lower half of the dial. The non-COSC versions simply have "Submariner 1000ft=300m" on the lower part of the dial.
No-date advantage? The one thing about the I like about the no-date sub, is the nice classic clean looking face. Other than that, there really is no advantage to a no-date Submariner versus one with a date except for the price (about US$400 less) and a few less moving parts, which means a few less parts subject to failure. But when you are buying a Rolex, premature failure of the movement is something you need be too concerned about.
About Rolex. Rolex SA is a Swiss manufacturer of wristwatches and accessories founded in 1905 by Hans Wilsdorf and Alfred Davis. Rolex is the largest single luxury watch brand by far, producing over 2000 watches per day. Rolex is the best known and most sought after watch brand in the world.
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The no-date submariner is actually a bit thinner, and has a thinner bezel as-well. It has an elegance and classical military styling that the date model lacks. It's also much rarer because most dealers opt to order the date model. The date option is a cheap add-on and so dealers order it hoping to please their clients. It's a mistake in most purists opinion because the watch was intended as a no-date tool watch. A real collector sends a subtle message of 'knowing' to their peers when they sport the no-date sub.
Yes, you are correct. That is something I learned long after I wrote this article. The 14060M has a case diameter of 39.5mm, which is 0.5mm less than the Submariner Date. The cases of the 14060M is 11mm thick, which is slimmer than the 12mm case of the Submariner Date. The height of the 14060M (length from lug to lug) is 47mm, or 1mm less than the Submariner Date. Despite their very similar appearance, both watches use very different cases.
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I love this watch's simplicity... If there's one thing I truly admire on this watch is its comfortable to wear and snugly on the wrist.
I heard from a good buddy of my uncle who is based in Geneva. Most of the folk over there prefer the no date sub. No cosc as well. The dont need someone to tell them what they make keeps good time..I guess.
Great tool watch. The date version is just for ppl who want more bang for their bucks. A bit like fancy cupholders in cars these days. They are gimmicks - but a no date sub just says, you have been through the whole rolex collection and at the end you have simply arrived. As for the rest, they are still somewhere in time.
Go for the cosc free version i.e earlier ones. The face is much cleaner without the extra lettering and commands a much higher resale value.
As for the design. It's timeless. The only rolex that truly embodies the spirit of the submariner.
The other one that comes closest to the nodate sub is probably the Explorer I, but it has no resale value, not much history and for buck value it does quite deliver on the quality.
So the choice is clear.
The non-COSC dial looks cleaner. Also, I have never been fond of the Rolex Rolex Rolex engraving on the inner bezel.
I have many timepieces. Some with even reserved complications. But ultimately, one reaches a point of wisdom, when one realizes simplicity will always be king.
There is an allure abt the 14060. It's simple. Like a Leica or Morgan. It is primarily a tool watch.
They don't make application timepieces anymore that appeals to function. These days watches have become fashion accessories.
That is why, when one sees another wearing a no date sub, you just know, that he has made it home after going all over the place. A great watch. A watch that sets it's own bench. Hold on to it. I predict the no COSC version will command a higher value in a few yrs when Rolex decides to stupidly discontinue this model and chase after the Lady Gaga crowd watch lovers.
I have to agree. After desiring one watch than another, ultimately, I favor simple classical designs. "Simplicity will always be king." Agreed.
After reading some of the comments here I feel better about purchasing my no date submariner in 2003. I always felt I made a big mistake in doing so. I do love clean lines and not a lot of busy going on. Guess I made the right choice! What is it worth?
I think you made the right choice. This is the last true classic left in the Rolex line-up today.
The new rolex no date sub has a mechanism known as the tractuer. It is supposed to be more reliable than the older no cosc version. But the no cosc version is not inferior in anyway whatsoever. Infact, I think Rolex spoilt the cleanlines with the new rolex, rolex, rolex inner bezel and the incorporation of the extra words on the face really spoilt it. Somehow it takes away everything that is minimalistic and simple abt this historical timepiece.
A real masterpiece. I bet in 15 or 20 years, this watch will outstrip the other rolex's in terms of collectibility, as this is the only watch in the current Rolex line up that still represents the true spirit of adventure that was once so closely associated with Rolex. Long before they started sponsoring silly events like opera, ballet, jazz and flower arrangement competitions.
A great watch to own and just look at from time to time. I really wished I bought one instead of my cyclops sub.
James Harringay, Fort Benning
Thank you for that valuable piece of information. Never realized there were internal changes, and I think very few do. I am okay with the additional wording identifying it as a COSC model on the dial the rolex, rolex, rolex inner bezel really bothers me on all Rolex watches. I do not think it does much to prevent counterfeiting anyway.
Thank you for that valuable piece of information. Never realized there were internal changes, and I think very few do. I am okay with the additional wording identifying it as a COSC model on the dial the rolex, rolex, rolex inner bezel really bothers me on all Rolex watches. I do not think it does much to prevent counterfeiting anyway.
My father passed away recently and I inherited his no-date sub, which he purchased, with me present, in June 1986. It has a few scratches on the crystal but is in otherwise great condition. I am wondering about it's value. I would never sell it regardless, but until coming across this site, I had assumed that it was less valuable than the with-date version. Does anyone have an idea as to it's resale value for insurance purposes? Thanks in advance.
Your watch is probably a Rev. 5512 Submariner. Valuation depends a lot on the condition of the watch. Roughly US$6-7K.
I purchased my Submariner ref 14060M non-date, just a couple of weeks ago. It was so much like new it still had all the protective tape on the case sides, as well tags and valid warrant card. To call it used would be a misnomer. I purchased it to round out my modest Rolex collection. The only decal left on is on the case back "14060M" The face spells out it's a chronometer, ect. It runs about +4 to + 5 second peer 24 hours. The bracelet is very comfortable and the case sits nicely on my wrist.
Hi, I realized after posting I had forgotten a very important point of my ref 14060M COSC non-date. I did not spell it out until farther down the review. Now that that's settled.
Andy from southport england says I purchased a mon date from a Rolex dealer in the uk who my brother worked for it cost £1585 with staff discount in 2005 Rolex advised me recently the uk retail price for the 14060m non date is currently £4200 what an investment that is the watch is a classic simple as that
Rolex has a policy of steady and progressive price increases which pretty much guarantees that its stainless steel watches makes good investments.
Heard the hour hand and marker are made of white gold. Is there any sub or any rolex at all made of pure ss simplicity, no gold, no platinum?
I would think one of the vintage models would be made of all SS. Problem is, I do not know which.
In terms of collectibility...if you believe "the rarer, the more valuable", then I should point out that the 14060M COSC certified model had a relatively short production run (2007-2010), especially compared to the non-COSC.
Just bought a 2010 no date sub. I didn't notice when I bought it but it has been polished a bit on one side. Does anyone know if Rolex would fix this if I put it in for a service?
When I send my Datejust back in for service, it is polished a bit to look like new. I think what you are talking about is someone polished the brushed section of the Sub. I would think Rolex can restore it. But I have not had anything like that done.
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